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I was reading the comments,
I was reading the comments, specially the last one. It is to be realised that it is the purpose of certain people (very few in number, but they can influence others) to keep the community illiterate and backward. It is then that they will have total control over them. If once the people get educated and standard of living improves, naturally they will be questioned. Otherwise I do not see any justification about the advices given to job seekers.
It is to be remembered that as time changes, the meaning and interpretation of scriptures should also be read differently. If 4 nikahs were allowed, it was because 1400 years back, due to tribe warfare, male members very very few and female members outnumbered the male in the society. So it was a very nobel step. But dont you think it is being carried a bit too far, to follow the same rule that was followed then ? and that too when population is so high ? I think it is time for the community to introspect and come out with solutions. Solutions need to be generated from within, it will never come from outside.
Well wisher
Thank you for the wishes, but I think you are not grasping the essence of Islam. It is a faith for all times and all regions, so the values therein have to be just for all seasons and all places. There is no question of reform here, it is the already reformed faith for the future of humanity.
By the way, the Qur'an only allows 4 marriages, that too under stringent conditions, it does not force anyone to marry 4 times- if you see, the instance of polygamy is higher in India among non-Muslims than Muslims. For those non-Muslim sisters who are co-wives, there are not even any provisions for fair treatment. Don't fall prey to media bytes.
Ulmas! Come in open.
Dear Muslim brother and sisters, here there is no question of government domination or interference in the affairs of Madarsa Board. What hell the Ulmas of different sects among Muslims are doing! Have they forwarded their demands and suggestion to the government? What is un-Islamic and conspiracy in the draft of Madarsa Board suggested by government. The masses are not aware, what is going on behind the curtain. It is the duty of Ulmas and particularly the so called 'Champion' of Muslim causes the Wahhabis, who are so vocal, but doing nothing for the cause of the welfare of poor Muslim masses. What 'Raja Mandi' is doing in the parliament, praising the Madam Sonia only !
The cartoon is showing the real picture of poor helpless Indian Muslims.
Madrasa board of muslims by muslims for muslims.
Bootwala,
RSS cannot digest their food without muslim bashing.In your case it seems it is the wahabi bashing.Why are you expecting them to beg for you when majority of poor muslims indian massess are blindly following barelvism and deobandism.
Their helplessness is because of leaders like you who were making boots till the other day and now claiming to be leaders of indian Ummah and find no conspiracy against Islam and muslims.
To have a glimpse of conpiracy Go and attend any of thousands of RSS meetings taking place all over india everyday morning,whose bread and butter is islam and muslim bashing.
Cartoon failed to show the poisonous injection in the hands of a RSS trained doctors,Kapil sibbal excluded.
Be possitive, Dear Mr. Salafi.
Dear Mr. Salafi, there is no question of begging, we are the bonafide citizens of this country. We were the master of this country for hundred of years. India is a welfare state, and the government is offering us our due, now it is our duty to accept and identified the right and beneficial and reject or throw away, what is not in our interest.Here in Madarsa board case our Ulmas are at all not ready to listen anybody and issuing Fatwas against it, without any debate etc, as it is against their personal interest. I have remember few years back the government has suggested payment for Imams of masjids, it was rejected. Dear Mr. Salafi, you know what are the condition of poor Imams? They are getting merely two thousand rupees a month in most of the cases from Masjid trusts as their religious services.What Darul Uloom Deoband and Alla-Hazrat center of our clerics have done for the betterment for this Imams, and what we ordinary Muslim calling ourselves the intellectuals, are helping monetarily the person, Imam, whom we are following in our prayers. A shameful situation for we all Muslims and particularly the 'Dhongi' Ulmas.
Yes, you are rightly worried about the Muslim bashing from RSS and other anti Muslim forces,forget them, let them do what they are doing. Think about our preparation to counter them positively and grab the opportunity on proper time. Why you are worried Mr.Salafi, have you forgotten the ratio of 313, verses thousands of evil forces in the glorious Islamic history. Was-salam.
I think the government
I think the government should keeps its hands off from our religious affairs. Islam has its own rules and regulations, which every Muslim is bound by.
Yes - then don't say Muslims are being discriminated against
1-- All Muslims women can be kept in BURQUA with out any education so that all available jobs can be taken by women of other religions.
2-- All Muslim men can study in only Madrassas and become MULLAHS. Again beneficiary would be other communities.
3-- Muslims will visit non-Islamic Web sites and pornographic sites if they learn Computer- so a FATWA must be issued against learning computer.
4-- Polio Drops should not be administrated to Muslim Children so that they remain crippled fro generations.
But don't accuse others of discriminating Muslims. All high paying jobs will be taken by others and Muslims ALLAH KA NAM LEKHAR RAHNA. JANNAT HAZIL HOGA. JANNAT KE LIYE MARNA ZAROORI HE. So don't avail medical facilities- JANNAT JALDI HAZIL HOGA!!!
Too proud
I get to know by ur use of Z for S that you ought to be a Malayalee.
Your assumptions are certainly the menefestations of the ground work criminal organisations are doing in Kerala.
Instead of finding faults, as you suggested, try doing positive for the Muslims. There is gross discrimination just because Muslims are Muslims. Mind it, you do not do same to the Christians and Sikhs. Do you ask a Sikh or Christian armed force officer which Gurudwara or church does he/she visits while same is common by so called 'intellegence agencies' for Muslims. Does anybody question why so much of noise at churches during christmas while they question ablution by Muslim travelling by train.
It is Islamophobia, plain and simple. Stop pontifying.
Ask your self why
My point is precisely what you are concerned about. When Muslims insist on maintaining separate identity everywhere why should they complain when discriminated about?? Can Muslims get well paid JOBS if they are NOT proficient in Computer?? In TCN itself I have seen comments about computer being a source of UN-ISLAMIC activity because it makes it possible for MUSLIMS to visit pornographic sites.
Why is it that Muslims can not peacefully co-exist with anyone else- Muslims are fighting with the rest of the population even in a small island country like Philippines, where Muslims are just 5% of the population. Where ever MUSLIMS are in majority they establish ISLAMIC LAWS and when they are in MINORITY they want secularism. ISLAMOPHOBIA exists because the MUSLIMS give reasons for that. Shoot out happen frequently in USA. But when MAJOR NIDAL MALIK HASSAN shot the soldiers at FORT HOOD USA he shouted "ALLAHU AKBAR" giving an ISLAMI JEHADI angle to the "killing". So you can't blame others if they suspect MUSLIMS- it just has to do something with what ISLAM does to MUSLIMS. Hence forth will any US soldier trust a MUSLIM US SOLDIER??? What about Muslims soldiers in other secular countries like India, UK, France etc??? My point is precisely what you are concerned about. When Muslims insist on maintaining separate identity everywhere why should they complain when discriminated about?? Can Muslims get well paid IT JOBS if they are NOT proficient in Computer?? In TCN itself I have seen comments about computer being a source of UN-ISLAMIC activity because it makes it possible for MUSLIMS to visit pornographic sites.
Muslims must ask themselves the reason for segregation they face. Why is it that Muslims can not peacefully co-exist with anyone else- Muslims are fighting with the rest of the population even in a small island country like Philippines, where Muslims are just 5% of the population. Where ever MUSLIMS are in majority they establish ISLAMIC LAWS and when they are in MINORITY they want secularism. ISLAMOPHOBIA exists because the MUSLIMS give reasons for that. Shoot out happen frequently in USA. But when MAJOR NIDAL MALIK HASSAN shot the soldiers at FORT HOOD USA he shouted "ALLAHU AKBAR" giving an ISLAMI JEHADI angle to the "killing". So you can't blame others if they suspect MUSLIMS- it just has to do something with what ISLAM does to MUSLIMS making them more committed to ISLAM than anything else.
Muslims canot exist peacefully when neighbours house is on fire
Muslims cannot keep watching and enjoying TV when their neighbours house is on fire and the neighbour is sleeping.Non muslims dont know about Islam thatswhy muslims go out of there way to save their neighbours from falling in hellfire.One cannot sleep peacefully when his neighbours house is on fire.Otherwise on the day of judgement this neighbour will complain to AllahAlmighty that this muslim didnot inform him about islam and he was watching and enjoying TV peacefully with his family, and then request Allah to drag this muslim also along with him to hellfire.So to avoid this situation muslims are anxious and desperate to call all non muslims to Islam so that All his neighbours are saved from hellfire.
Nobodys house is on fire- sleep well
Hindus does NOT have to wait till the "day of judgment" to face the GOD. It happens with in a few days of the death unlike MUSLIMS who will have to lie buried for eternity waiting for the day of judgment- it hasn't happened even once in the last 1400 years from Muhammad’s time. So technically even MUHAMMAD hasn't reached heaven yet, unless ALLAH called him as a "special case" like the privilege extended to JESUS. SO HINDUS WILL NOT BE THERE TO BLAME MUSLIMS ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT- you can sleep peacefully- SALAFI.
However, the JEWS and CHRISTIANS would be in competition /complaining about MUSLIMS of the day of judgment as you all pray to the GOD OF ABRAHAM, and believe on the day of judgment. So please concentrate your efforts on Jews and Christians
First Refine the enrolled dear Salafi sahab!
Dear Salafi Sahab,
The real Muslims are first better to refine the already enrolled (Muslims) rather than worrying for those who are any way destined(according to your own illusion) to face the hellfire. You already have millions of Muslim who do not understand the Holy Kuran properly, there are miliions of such category of Muslim who involve in nonislamic activities. So start your cleaning activity from your home first I am dam sure that it would take not less than 100 years for these accidental Muslims (who are called Muslims just because they are born to Muslim parents) to be refined and transformed into real muslims and by then the world will again see ready stock of these kind of muslims who are to be refined. So as Muslims are so concerned about saving the humanity from the all Illusionized hellfire I advise them to firstly save your own community (whom you concern as your and not as the neighbour) and then if at all the alimighty left any time for you, you can think of your neighbour who do not even know about this hellfire business.
So my advise in one line is save those people(from the hellfire) who are aware of it (and still not falling in line of the Holy Kuran) first because they are chanced to be born into your (muslim) family.
Dear Naqqaad
Dear Mr Naqqaad,
I chanced to visit Darul Uloom Deoband, India's website (http://darulifta-deoband.org/index.jsp) where learned people reply to questions of the seekers on many aspects. According to some of these guidelines
1) A True Muslim is prohibited to work in any such institution which deals with interest on loan or money deposited - Naturally Banks, Chitfunds, Financial Institutions, Insurance Corporations etc. which are the sources for some moderate to highly paid jobs are prohibited for True Muslims.
2) Similarly one seeker has been asked to search for an alternative job when he told that he is working in Computer Multimedia/Graphics related job as it may involve in working with photographs of women (models) - which is anti Islam.
3) One person from Bangladesh asked whether he can persue a 3 year training course in some Navy college abroad during which he is asked to remain clean shaved(and he'll be permitted to keep his beard after his training period) he was advised to not to join in that training and to search whether any other institute is available wich would allow him to keep his beard during and after training.
4) Women are advised to not to go for a job until and unness it is badly needed to and even if they go for job they should strictly observe hizabh and if it is not possible to observe it due to any unaviodable circumstances they should clearly avoid talking to their male coleague and strangers.
Sir, there are many such examples going through which one may wonder after all what are all the jobs that are better suited for the True Muslims (men/women). When we have so little options to choose from, how can we dream of good jobs and better living standards? How can we compete with the other communities if we decide to limit our stakes over the available opportunities in the world. If there are these many prohibitions in job selection why should not we prepare Muslim youth particularly for those jobs which are not prohibited for them so that atleast they can choose the right courses for their career not wasting their precious time and money on those course which are Islamically not leagal.
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