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With due respect to hon'ble chief minister of Gujarat…
By Md. Ali and Mumtaz Alam Falahi, TwoCircles.net,
New Delhi: "With due respect to secularism and with due respect to the honourable Chief Minister of Gujarat" said a person from Gujarat when he began giving information to TwoCircles.net about a communal violence there.
Why this "kalimah" in praise of the man who is known to the world more for Gujarat pogrom 2002 than anything else? Was he really saluting the man? Obviously, he was terrified to share the information while talking to the media though just repeating the facts. He feared that maybe his phone was being tapped. At the end of the talk he requested not to phone him again, and to prefer email.
This is just a reflection of how terrified and terrorized Muslims are today in India after serial bombings and terrorist attacks.

Photo by Lakshman Anand
This was to happen and maybe this had been the purpose of those who have launched an unstoppable series of serial bombings across the country – Delhi, Ajmer, Hyderabad, Jaipur, Bangalore, Ahmedabad and again Delhi, and still counting. They also conducted bombings in some district court premises in Uttar Pradesh last year.
What happened after each and every terrorist attack has shattered the faith in law enforcement of the second largest majority community in the country.
For each bombing some Muslim sounding organizations were blamed. This was enough to cast the entire Muslim community in suspicion. Their youths as well as elders were picked up indiscriminately by investigating agencies and anti-terrorist squads.
With this trend on in full swing after the recent Delhi bombings also, the community is shaking with fear. More so because now a new feature has been added to the trend. Now ATS personnel are making known and respectable persons from the community their target.
Abdul Rasheed Agwan, a known social activist who is attached with some prominent organizations, was picked by ATS on Sunday from Jamia Nagar area in New Delhi. After 10 hours of grilling he was released as they could not find anything against him. But his detention was enough to damage his image. Who will compensate him for the damage to his personality?
Dr. Mustafa Kamal Sherwani is one of the prominent personalities in Uttar Pradesh. He heads All India Muslim Forum, a political organization which has fielded its candidates in elections.
A couple of days ago "two intelligence personnel even came to me to acquire all the details of All India Muslim Forum, saying that the government is collecting information about all Muslim organizations," discloses Sherwani in a mail. He has been running the All India Muslim Forum as a political party since 1996, and it is the first time that it has happened.
Patna-based legal expert and practicing lawyer Dr. Badre Alam Khan is also fearful. He fears that any innocent person be it he or anyone else can be arrested by the police. He says the effects of biased investigation of terror attacks and the bomb blasts are being felt by the Muslim youths.
TCN correspondent in Delhi had planned 10 days ago to have Iftar with four of his friends at Jama Masjid on this past Sunday. But hours after the Saturday blasts in Delhi they changed their mind. They said they won't accompany him, fearing backlash of police and indiscriminate arrests.
Sabihul Haque (24), an MBA from Patna University, pointed out, "indeed the blasts and terror attacks do have profound influence on the psyche of Muslims in India."
Putting himself as an example he says, "the first thing that comes to my mind is that of fear and terror. Leave others, even I myself who has no relation with the thing called terrorism can end up being projected as a terrorist."
"Earlier Muslim youths may not have inclined towards the acts of terrorism, but the way the investigative agencies have been conducting investigations into the bomb blasts, it certainly feeds the extremist ideology."
Dr. Imtiyaz Ahmad (48) who is a professor at College of Commerce, Patna says that the community as a whole has been isolated and alienated on account of the terror and fear prevailing them after any bomb blast.
He says that the way police has been conducting biased pattern of investigation the maxim is still true that injustice leads to extremism, because the only emotion they evoke for the Muslim youth is that of anger and anguish. The youth in anger can do anything when they feel that the system is prejudiced enough to deliver them justice.
Ishtiyaq Ahmad (30), a stock market investor and trader, points out, "I can only express my anguish at the fact that I find every blast to be so much destructive for the Muslims in India. Certainly I do fear that I may end up behind the bars, as here there is no transparency and police have been misusing its powers without any accountability."9".
Shagufta Khan who teaches English literature at L.N. Mishra Institute of Management and Social Change, Patna, points out, "let alone any individual Muslim, the whole community is suffering from fear psychosis."
TwoCircles.net also talked to Dr. Badre Alam khan on the legal aspect of the issue.
In what situation any law enforcement agency can arrest someone on the charges of terror? Do they have sweeping powers?
He replies, "Absolutely not." Any law enforcement agencies be it police or Anti Terror Squad (ATS) don't have absolute powers to arrest any person. Before arresting anyone it has to tell him or her charges of arrest.
But that can always be misused as the recent cases show. He says that it is the fault of the law that it considers the agencies like police to act in an impartial manner which is not at all the case.
But again if they have misused the law anyone can contact the Human Rights Commission which has got the powers to amend the wrong done by the police.
The accused has got the right to liberty and life. So he deserves proper judicial trial without which he can not be "damned."
So if the police don't produce him or her before the court within 24 hours one can contact the Human rights commission or Court.
He goes on to point out that even after such provisions laws have been misused by the police without any accountability. In order to correct that, the lawmaking agencies must include certain provisions in the law which can counter its misuse.










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why the problem is in every place where muslims live ??
why the problem is in every place where muslims live ??
Becasue
1. The Quaran teaches them that any non-muslim is a Kafir. And Kafirs have no rights to exist in the world.
Where ever you find a kafir you kill them
So muslims don't know how to co-exist in a society.
2.Their 'religion' is higher than above all. So when it comes to decide between killing-terrorism and religion, they choose the second one.
Country, peace of country, prosper of country is secondary to them.
3. They produce lots of childrens as Allah permits them. They spread in the society and spread their rotten thoughts.
4.Muhammad was a fighter/killer like 'Aurangzeb', 'Babar', 'Chengiz Khan'.He was fighting to spraed his ideas and was killing people. Forcible Conversion starts from there.
So how can it be a religion which is started by a killer ??
So its time for all so called 'non-kafirs' to pack up.
why the problem is in every
why the problem is in every place where muslims live ??
Becasue
1. The Quaran teaches them that any non-muslim is a Kafir. And Kafirs have no rights to exist in the world.
Where ever you find a kafir you kill them
So muslims don't know how to co-exist in a society.
FIRST LET ME SAY SALAM ALAIKUM. PEACE TO YOU. MY RELIGION IS ISLAM MEANING PEACE. THE FUNDAMENTAL ITSELF IS BUILT ON PEACE. NOW I WILL ASK YOU WHAT IS YOUR RELIGION.CHECK YOUR HOLYBOOKS AND TELL ME DONT TELL ME TITLE GIVEN BY PERSINAS AND ENGLISH MEN..
1 ANS)YES YOUR RIGHT NON-MUSLIM IS KAAFIR. ITS ARABIC WORD FOR NON-MUSLIM. WHAT PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH KAAFIR WORD, IF I WANT TO REFER ANY OTHER FRIEND OF MNY WHO IS NOT MUSLIM , I WILL SAY MY NON-MUSLIM FREIND. IN ARABIC.MY KAAFIC FRIEND. NOW IF I SAY NON-MUSLIM U DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM, IF I SAY KAAFIR SAME WORD IN ARABIC.. U HAVE PROBELM., ACTUALLY THS POISON IS SPREAD BY SOME OF OUR BROTHERS OF PARIVAR , THEY INSTIGATE U THAT SEE MUSLIM ARE CALLING YOU KAAFIR( SOME BAD WORD).... ...
NOW U SAID WHERE EVER U FIND KAAFIRS KILL THEM.... GO TO NEAR BOOK HOUSE, TAKE COPY OF QURAN AND TELL ME WHERE IN THE QURAN ITS WRITTEN TO KILL ALL KAAFIRS.
NOW THE TERM UR REFERING IS USED BY OUR BROTHER ARUN SHOURIE. WHERE HE PICKED THE VERSUS OR QURAN OUT OF CONTEXT AND USED IN HIS BOOK.
NOW I WILL TELL U MAHARHART..
KRISHNA SAYS TO ARJUN KILL YOUR COUSINS.
DONT BE SHOCKED YOUR COMPLETE MAHABHART IS STORY OF WAR.
NOW THIS "KILL YOUR COUSINS" IS OUT OF CONTEXT.. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE TOTAL CONTEXT OF KRISHNA, IN BATTLE FIELD ,WHEN ARJUN SAYS I CANT KILL MY COUSINS KAURAVAS, THEN KRISHNA DID HIS GEETOPADADESHAM AND TOLD ARJUN THAT YOUR FIGTING A WAR OF TRUTH AND IN BATTLE U NEED TO FIGHT FOR UNJUSTICE, TRUTH SHUD KILL THE FALSEHOOD...
NOW SAME WAY IN BATTLE OF BADAR, WHEN MAKKAH PEOPLE WERE ATTCAKING THE MUSLIMS WITH HUGE ARMY.. OUR PROPHET MOHAMMED (SAW) GAVE A SPEECH TO BOOST THE MORAL OF 300 SOLDIRES.. THAT YOUR FIGHTING THE WAR OF TRUTH,DONT BE AFRAID OF THAT THOUSAND OF ARMY, FIGHT WITH THEM, WHERE EVER YOU FIND KILL THEM. BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT IF THEY ASK FOR RESCUE DONT KILL THEM , TAKE THEM TO SAFE PLACE OF RESCUE, AND NO KILLING OF WOMEN AND CHILDREDN, NO BURNING OF CATTLE......
SO MY DEAR FRIEND FIRST GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT BEFORE POSTING ANONYMUS COMMENTS..
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2.Their 'religion' is higher than above all. So when it comes to decide between killing-terrorism and religion, they choose the second one.
Country, peace of country, prosper of country is secondary to them.
YES OUR RELIGION IS ABOVE evrybody, IT IS THE RELIGION OF ALLHAH( GOD) WHO CREATED ME , YOU AND ALL.... and we condemn all terrorist activities. if its by RSS, BAJARANGDAL, SIMI or any one ....
3. They produce lots of childrens as Allah permits them. They spread in the society and spread their rotten thoughts.
IF WE PRODUCE LOT OF CHILDREN ,THEN WHY WE STILL MINORITY .EVEN AFTER 50 YEARS OF INDEPENCE AND 1000 YEARS OF RULING BY MUSLIM KINGS...U NEED TO CHEK YOUR FACTS.
4.Muhammad was a fighter/killer like 'Aurangzeb', 'Babar', 'Chengiz Khan'.He was fighting to spraed his ideas and was killing people. Forcible Conversion starts from there.
So how can it be a religion which is started by a killer ??
THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIE, ANY ONE ONE CREATE IN CENTURIES THAT ISLAM IS SPREAD BY SWORD. SAID NOT BY ME BUT sir Thomas Arnold.HE IS GREAT WRITER OF HISTORY..
NOW AURANGAZEB, BABER RULED INDIA FOR CENTURIES, BUT WHY THEY DIDNT ABLE TO CONVERT ALL INDIANS TO MUSLIM, WHY WE STILL MINORITY. U DONT NEED ANY HISTORIANS OR ANY ONE TO TELL YOU, MUSLIM KINGS RULED INDIA FOR APPROX. 1000 YEARS BUT STILL WE ARE MINORITY, THIS IS PLANE AND WHITE TRUTH.
NOW CHECK YOUR FACTS. CHENGIZ KHAN WAS NOT MUSLIM, HE WAS MONOGOLAIN. AND KHAN IS TITLE GIVEN FOR LEADER.
So its time for all so called 'non-kafirs' to pack up.
non-kaafir means musilms.. yes it is time to pack up and stand for Truth..
Do not be Discourage by this kind of anonymous false spread of false hood..
Why the Problem is in every place where Bajrag Dal Lives?
1. The word Kafir is used for one who does not believe in one true almighty God. But Hindus believe in Bagawan or Iswarah and so they are not Kafirs, they are a sort of believers.
2. Muslims have been co-existing peacefully for over a thousand years in Inda, much more humanely than those who were created from the head of Brahma.
3. At last you said one thing beautifully well about Muslims, “THEIR RELIGION IS ABOVE ALL”. Thanks, but leave the definition of that Muslims. Submitting to the will of GOD ALMIGHTY is the at most important, everything else, including the political borders take a back seat. Peace is part of it and not against it.
4. Your third point about producing children is wrong. We do believe in birth control and if what you say is true Muslims should have become a majority in India and that would have solved the communal problems like Gujarat massacre more equitably.
5. Your 4th point about Muhammad(SAW) fighting wars in totally wrong. In his entire 63 years of life, his enemies were trying to fight him, and all his wars were defensive.
Gandhi the father of the nation said, quote,” When I read his ( Muhammad’s life) I shed tears Have you read History about the number of tens of thousands of Jains, Buddhists and Dravidians massacred by the high caste Hindus in order to stop the Hindu reforms?
why most of countries are in troble because of muslim jihad?
Q. 1 - why most of countries are in troble because of muslim jihad..why u people have always problem with human being............u r fighting in afgan,india,mangoloa,chachnya, USA,italy, iraq.and so many..................
here in india we can't sleep properly dnt know when blast will happnedmmmmmmmm,,,,and we ll no more ,,,,and in next morning we found that some muslims arrested for blast..why nt any other community...........???????/.....tum log aatankwadi ho gaye sab...........
hindus secularism VS Muslims islamism
Because in Middle east (Muslim Gulf countries) , there has not been a single riot against life and property of Hindus, who b.t.w are more in number than Indian Muslims in the Gulf, thanks to our Government's and Hindu job agent's policies of sending more Indian Hindus, than Muslims, even to the Gulf.
Hence, Hindus are safe and secure even in so-called 'non-secular' Muslim countries while Muslims are being targeted by the communal Parties/police and media and suffering loss of life and property (in riots) in their own so-called 'secular' country.
What about the terror victims!
This article shows no sympathies to victims of terror that has been going in succession from train and mecca masjid blasts.The high-level probe demand is duplicitous.There is a pretension that intelligence and police cannot be trusted. Instead of introspection, pressure is mounted on Govt to stop intelligence and police from doing their job. This will boomerang. MARK my WORDS. It is alleged in article that media and police blame SIMI and IM. If you failed to notice the fine print, you can see that it is SIMI which sent threatening mails to media people telling in detail the motivation for such acts. The conspiracy theories of Bajrang Dal making bombs and thus they are responsible for all the blasts are complete bollocks.Making bombs and conducting terrorists attacks are whole different ball game.every party in India like Left,BJP,SP,even normal muslim political party cadres etc makes bombs and country made guns for election time conflicts and rivalary.THAT IS NOT TERRORISM..IT IS A LAW AND ORDER issue, IF YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT GREY MATTER to understand it or pretending not to. It is convenient to look the other way and assume a totally ridiculous position that Muslims can do no wrong and everything bad is only done by non-muslims. The 9/11 Mossad conspiracy is one such prominent ridiculous effort at it, when Bin Laden and Al-Zawahiri was at pains in videos to prove that they did the job with pride. Al-Zawahiri even lashed out at Iranians and hezbullah for starting that 9/11 rumor to "discredit Sunni's achievement"
NON MUSLIMS DISCREDIT THE QURAN
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Terror-spilling-over-to-India-from-
neighbours-Antony/362006/
The comments of Kodimiran Iqbal appears under the above link giving
a brief answers to Hindu readers who accuse that the Holy Quran is
a terrorist manual.
It is dated 16th September 2008.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Cops-fumble-with-names-probe-on/362003...
This appeared in Indian Express on 16th Sep. 2008.
The writer has spit venom. He has deliberately discredited
the Holy Quran
Please rebut such criticism in Two Circles Net
ANSWER INDIAN EXPRESS
The following was a comment from a Hindu brother which I picked up from Indian Express Delhi Edition between Sep 12th and Sep 18th 2008. The language errors are the writer's original. Knowledgeable people in TWOCIRCLES NET should regularly go through such stupid comments and give a polite answer.There is no point in our talking and discussing minority issue within ourselves.We got o interact and try to correct the misunderstanding among the majority community to build bridges of understanding
QUOTE FROM THE INDIAN EXPRESS BELOW
I am yet to see a SINGLE MUSLIM condemining islamic terrorism. Instead every time terrorists kill inncoent people muslims supporters of terrorist keep repeating like a broken record modi, Gujarat, Barbri Masjid. Thousands of Indians (mainly hindus) get killed every year in the hands of terrorist. After Iraq India has the most number of people killed by terrorists. It is no wonder India also has a huge Muslim population. The countries that has no muslims population has no terrorist incidents e,g Japan, Korea, central and latin America. If we go back in History for last 1400 years number of Hindus who were killed for refusing to convert to Islam will run into millions. Writer Sujatha wrote in Srirangam alone 45000 hindus were killed for refusing to convert to Islam when muslims invaded Tamil nadu. Remember that is how Tamil speaking muslims came into existence.
Muslims after the blasts
It is a fact that after blasts, many Muslims feel
that fingers are pointing towards them, even when
they are not militants but moderates.The question
is how can moderates separate themselves from the
militants. All of the recent blasts are work of the
Indian Muslims, and not Pakistanis. Even UPA has
started realizing this fact. And there are talks of
making a law simialr to POTA.
Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Jains, Bahais...
they all are Indians first. Religion comes in picture
later. To keep this Motherland India secure, its duty
of every Indian, be it Muslim or Hindu or Christian, to
report any suspicious person or activity to Govt. or
police.
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