Jamia encounter: a visit to gloomy Batla House lane

By Mumtaz Alam Falahi, TwoCircles.net,

New Delhi: Today is the third Friday after the bloody Friday in New Delhi’s Jamia Nagar where a shootout claimed lives of two suspected terrorists and a Delhi police officer. To gauge the mood and feel the atmosphere today I visited the street which witnessed the encounter.

As soon as I entered the Batla House lane where is the spot of the encounter, I found a sense of gloom palpable in the atmosphere. Even three weeks after the event the air was heavy giving a clue that something unpleasant has happened there in the recent past.

The lane, half of which goes along the northern wall of the Khalilullah Masjid, is 12 feet wide and has some shops on either side, though basically it’s a residential area. There are a number of multi-storied buildings also.

While going through the lane I had a feeling like I was passing through a curfew-bound area as I saw very few people passing by me. Most of the shops in the lane which has now world famous or infamous House No. L-18 were closed. The densely populated lane once lively and shining was presenting a deserted look. Movement of people in the lane has come down drastically, for fear or somewhat, after the encounter which has now gained the importance of a national issue shaking the base of the Congress-led UPA government at the Centre.

It was on September 19 when the Special Cell sleuths of the Delhi Police successfully gunned down Atif (24) and Sajid (17) whom the police first described as the suspected terrorists and later as the masterminds of all serials blasts in the recent past in the country and Atif as the chief of shadowy terrorist organization Indian Mujahideen. The encounter also claimed the life of Delhi Police Inspector Mohan Chand Sharma. As no bullet was found in Sharma’s body because he was shot from the close range, huge speculation and doubts were heaped by locals, intellectuals and human rights activists on the police version of the encounter. They said it was fake.

While a week ago people celebrated Eid peacefully but normalcy is still an illusion. It is yet to reach in full to the area, particularly to the lane. This was the first and last observation one can have while in the area.

People feel it safe to remain indoor, shops are not opening properly and some are closed since the day, says Rais, who works in an outlet of an electricity supplier company, pointing towards the closed shops. His outlet is a few feet from L-18.

When I neared the house I found half a dozen policemen sitting in the parking lot of the building while one sitting outside on the road. Fully sure of the failure I requested the policemen to allow me to have a look at the flat. They gave me the same reply which I have got at least four times since the day of the encounter. The policemen do not allow in anyone except those residing in the apartment.

As the police are still deployed at the house watching the public movement, Rais was not willing to talk much.

No one knows, not even the policemen, how long the situation will remain so.

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Reply to Mr AK Singh (Modi Hindu)

All this sudden talk of a failed state is because the upper castes feel lost without the BJP !!
By saying India is not a failed state means someone out there sees it is a failed state.

What is behind this masked feeling ?

All the upper castes here are venting their frustration. And what is their frustration ?

It is that their Brahmins Janata Party is not in power ! The BJP was the great Brahmin Hope.

In the BJP era, the upper castes were full of themselves and were boasting that India was going to become a superpower (that is, Hindu superpower). They believed all this propaganda, despite the ugly communal riots and the social divisiveness the BJP engineered.

Now that the BJP has sunk into oblivion, the upper castes are feeling disappointed. The screwed-up American Hindus (generally upper castes) feel India did not meet their expectation and become a superpower. As India is clearly not a superpower, it feels like a failed state to them. But they have typical upper caste explanations for this – Muslim rule, British rule, reservations and pseudo-secular Hindus who got corrupted by Muslims and British !! Self-examination is not a need for them.

Now that the Muslims and British are gone, we should have successfully reverted to Manusmriti and Vedic times !!

So let us examine what the Brahmins Janata Party did to return us to Vedic times – that is the pristine Hindu life, when they drank gomutra and had a cow dung economy, and practised untouchability and sati, unadulterated by Muslim and British influence.

Murali Manohar Joshi was Hindutva minister for education and propaganda.

Here is a case study of what he did to return India to its glorious days before Muslims and Hindus.

(1) Joshi introduced Hindu knowledge like astrology and vasthu shastra in universities. This was derided by the scientific community in India as peddling superstitions, and undermining the credibility of Indian universities.

(2) Joshi introduced legislation saying school girls should not wear skirts as it was a British symbol of slavery. He decreed that the girls should wear salwar kameez – he overlooked the fact that it was a Muslim dress and so would be a symbol of Hindu slavery under the Muslims !!! The legislation had to be withdrawn because the parents protested at having to spend more money for new uniforms.

(3) Joshi and VHP funded research in a Lucknow institution to discover medicines from gomutra ! Foreigners sniggered at India and Hindus.

(4) Joshi instilled Sanskrit teaching in the state schools in UP. Prof. Kancha Illahiah who has analysed the harm done to India by Brahmanism wrote this was another diabolical Brahmin plot to exclude the low castes. The upper castes would be going to English medium schools and getting jobs, and the lower castes will be going to state schools and learning Sanskrit slokas and be unemployable.

I wish that the BJP had enacted a law based on Hindu shastras declaring that it was forbidden for Hindus to cross the ocean and go to Muslim and Christian countries. The Hindus who deride India as being a failed state since the BJP left are upper castes sitting in America.

India Needs leaders who are Nationalist

India Needs leaders who are Nationalist for whom country’s national security, Countries integrity, counties sovereignty and communal harmony (where each and every citizen of India gets justice not only select minority community) takes priority over any thing else.

India is a democratic country where constitution of India is supreme. India was divided on the bases of religion those Muslims who wanted to live under Islamic Sharia law went to Pakistan. Rest of the Indians regardless of their color cast and religion stayed back in India Those country man whose umbilical cord is attached with Arabia and those who want to live under Islamic Sharia law and are not happy in India then this is not the country where they should live they should seriously consider leaving.
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The bases of Indian Culture are Vedas which are thousands of year’s old collective wisdom of our Rishies and Monies weather some one likes it or not that remains the fact. Many invaders come and left. Hospitality of Indian culture remains supreme Indians welcomed all religions, India is mother of many religions Indians never went out and invaded any country.

India has gone through much turmoil many invaders like Mughals and British came they could not shake the Vedic culture. Indian Muslims are indigenous to that culture too …..Most of Indian Muslims are inheritors of the grand Indian culture in their heart of their hearts they should know that their ancestors were prosecuted and forcibly converted to Islam by invaders. I know this is not politically correct statement but that remains the fact…… Barber was one of those invaders. He committed atrocities on Hindus by forcefully converting them demolishing the Hindu Temples, building Mosques over them. How difficult is this concept to understand by English media as well as Indian Muslims Why is there such hue and cry about demolished of Barbari Maszid. There is no hue and cry about 150 temples demolished or illegally occupied by kashmiri Muslims in Kashmir valley there is not even a whisper a complete silence in democratic India but so much noise on invaders mosque WHY??????????

Indians are proud of their Parsi community who adopted India as their country. Parses of India are minorities but never asked for minority status. Parsis are well educated leading entrepreneurs of India to top it all they are nationalist other minority communities of India should learn thing or two from this proud flourishing Parsi community of India.

We Indians need to learn few things from United States. It is one country where whole world comes together because it is a country of immigrants from all over the world. It is governed under one law. They are not ashamed of their history. United States does not falsify their history unlike India on the account that it may flair communal tension. They have made mistakes as a nation they have learned from their past mistakes amended their laws and enforced the laws of land effectively. Nation comes first for Americans they are nationalist. We need to learn that from United States. They are Americans first then anything else their nationalism and patriotism is something we Indians should pay attention to

We need leaders who have spine like Prime Minister John Howard – Australia Quote: “……..I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. …..” Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims when he said that he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. He also reminded Muslim minorities

''We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.' 'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE '.''If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

We need a nation Leaders in our country who can stand up and say that our mother land was divided on religious lines. We have accepted that and have moved on with vibrant democracy. We can not allow any one to further divide our mother land. People who chose to stay back at the time of partition of India were not forced to do so. Indian Constitution protects each and every citizen of this country regardless of their cast color and religious beliefs. Those who want to live by sharia law and can not live in harmony and show respect to the culture of their mother Land they certainly are free to choose other country of their choice.

Anti Terror laws and Hindus

Will this terrorist law also cover Hindu politicians like Thackeray, Advani and Modi who incite violence against minorities and go scot-free ?

Thackeray asked for a Hindu suicide squad. Was he indicted ?

Advani was recorded on video raising mobs to demolish the Babari masjid, thereby starting an era of communal riots and bomb blasts. He went on to become Home Minister, in charge of law and order !

Modi orchestrated riots and conducted a pogrom in Gujarat to get elected. He is barred from entering the U.S. as a result, but in India, many Hindus worship him as a saviour of Hindus from terrorists (although many Hindus payed with their lives in bomb blasts afterwards).

India's problem is not the lack of a law to inhibit, it is lack of implementation of the law IMPARTIALLY.

What we have is Hindu politcians and police can break the law with impunity, and indulge in state terrorism, while innocent members of the minorities can be framed or subject to an encounter shooting (for example, Vanzara in Gujurat and Sharma in Jamia Encounter).

If you do that, those who do not have access to justice will take to terror - no matter what 'terror law' you draft.

Not Hindu & Muslim

Dear AK Singh,

This is not a question of Jamia Muslims verses Kashmiri Hindus or Orissa Christians etc. Its a case of fake encounter and killing of innocents. There are many Hindu's living in Jamia Nagar/Batla House because they find themselves better off and more secure than living in an Hindu locality.

Were you an eyewitness to the encounter ?? Of course not !! You only know what the media was barking. I suggest you goto Batla house and see for yourself and interview some locals and truth will flow like an instant coffee.

Our media has nothing to do with truth. It wants only Masala and Public attention. Ask those who work there and you will understand once for all.

TO ALL MY ANONYMOUS FRIENDS!!!!!

>ALL MY ANONYMOUS FRIENDS, 1. The worst thing that happened in Kashmir is the JEHAD. As you rightly pointed out every Kashmiri Muslim gets kicked from morning to night by SECURITY FORCES WHICH WAS NOT HAPPENING BEFORE JEHAD COMMENCED in 1989. You may visit Kashmir too and see the plight of Kashmiri Muslims for yourself. The PAKI JEHADIS had to be pumped in by ISI because The Kashmiri Muslims were fed up in the first five years itself and stopped fighting the SECURITY FORCES in 1994 itself. 2. Friends, Is there anybody in India who has a good word for the Indian Police- Hindu, Sikh, Christian, Jew, Jain, Buddhists, Maharashtrian, Kashmiri, Jammuite, Bihari etc etc- so why should the Muslim be any different. So we agree on this one point at least. 3. If Hinduism has survived in India after being ruled by Muslim rulers for 700 years and Christians for another 150 years, I can assure you that Hinduism will dominate India for another 800 years. If you are not happy you may leave. But the pity is that the CHAMPIONS of Islam- SAUDI ARABIA, UAE etc does not permit Indian Muslims to neither acquire property nor become citizens of that country while India allows Kashmiri Muslims to buy property in rest of India BUT people from rest of India (HINDU, MUSLIM, SIKH, CHRISTIAN) is not allowed to buy land in Kashmir. That my friend is the magnanimity of Hindus which you may TAKE AS OUR WEAKNESS.( EVEN USA ALLOWS INDIAN MUSLIMS TO ACQUIRE US CITIZENSHIP AND BUY PROPERTY IN USA WHILE SAUDI ARABIA DOESN'T EXTEND THE SAME FACILITY TO INDIAN MUSLIMS. HA..HA..HA)The PAKIS do not reciprocate and POK has been fully taken over by PUNJABI- PAKI- MUSLIMS. AREN'T YOU GLAD YOU ARE IN INDIA???

For democracy to function, we need less Vedic Hindus like you

For democracy to function, we need less Vedic Hindus like you Mr Ak Singh, and more people who think as Indians

How is India's pseudo-democracy better ?

We kill thousands in Kashmir and Assam, and Hindu mobs and politicians organise pogroms against minorities throughtout India.

I do not see such events in UAE or Pakistan or Bangladesh.

In these countries, I have never read about a Muslim mob going on the rampage and killing Hindus at the behest of politcians. Cite the instances when this has occurred.

Why are all the Hindus living in Dubai and Saudi Arabia ?

You obviously live in a make-believe world !

Who are the seculars ? They are also (mostly) Hindus. So why would Hindus defame Hindus ?

Consider the alternative option : there are many Hindus thugs, but not all Hindus are thugs, and the latter protest against the former.

The question is why do you back thugeesim ? Is this the authentic Hinduism ?

I can send you the Ahmedabad Forensic Laboratory report. It discounts the Hindutva fabrication about a Muslim mob burning the train in Godhra.

Even BJP MPs from Gujarat now say Modi planned the riots.

So now why are you still lying about it ?

The ASI found no evidence for a temple under the Babari masjid. An idol was placed inside the Babari masjid in 1948 by Hindu miscreants, and the gullible Hindus felt it was due to a shakti. If there was evidence for a temple, it could have been proved scientifically and published first.

In any case, Rama was a mythological character and Hindus like you need to grow out of your bloodthirsty penchant for mob violence.

We need people who can learn to think as Indians, and not as Hindus.

Then democracy will function in India.

From your writing, it is clear you cannot raise yourself to think as an Indian.

Shame, is it not, that the majority community produces so many like you ?

Reply to AK Singh

The Hindus brought mob violence and pogroms against minorities into Indian politics. It started with Advani and the demolition of the Babari masjid.

Modi massacred Muslims in Gujarat. Now the Hindus have also started persecuting the Christians.

As for the Muslims, their reaction is clear. After Ayodhya, they retaliated with serial blasts in Bombay. It has continued ever since. The Muslims are now ready to go after the Hindu's throat.

I don't see how the Delhi encounter will send a strong message to terrorists. They stood their ground and fought, and they killed the police inspector leading the assault. It shows the Muslims are ready to fight and die.

The only solution is for the Hindus to rebuild the Babari masjid, and punish Hindu criminals like Modi and Advani.

But Hindus like to shield their criminals, so this internal war will continue.

The Hindus have succeeded in turning the rest of India into Kashmir, where gun battles and bomb blasts rage in cities.

What is going on AK Singh?

We were told that the masterminds of Delhi, Bombay, Ahmedabad and Jaipur blasts had been caught or killed in encounters, and the terror network has been cracked.

The media and the people who write here were congratulating themselves very proudly.

Now where does this bomb come from ?

This era of bomb blasts and riots was brought to India by Advani and the notorious Sangh family.

I have said before and I say it again, it is election time in India, and Indians have to die, so that Advani can be elected.

We know the professionalism of the Hindu police AK Singh

We know the professionalism of the Hindu police - they found a rice box and said it was a bomb !!

AK Singh, we know the professionalism of our pot bellied Hindu policemen. In the Hyderabad blast, they boasted that they had found a tin bomb, and defused it. It was somebody's tiffin box with rice !

We saw Vanjara, the Hindu policeman involved in the fake encounter case in Gujarat. He was a backward Hindu whose education was financed by Muslims.

If you are a Hindu thug, you get a place in the police. I would like to see what these Hindu police would do if they were sent to PoK.

They would probably take off their khaki pants if they saw a real ISI agent ! A bit like you in front of me.

Your reply does not say what your Hindu Army and BJP is doing

Your Story does not say what your Hindu army and BJP is going to do to stop more such strikes

What is the point of posting this story ? There was nothing in it to raise the morale of Hindus, and indeed it was the opposite. The Jammu Hindus created trouble againt Kashmiris. So they have been struck.

Why should anyone sympathise with these stupid Hindus ?

From reading your story, if I was a Jammu Hindu, I would have a sense of foreboding, because your story does not say what your Hindu army and BJP Hindus are going to do to stop more such strikes.

Whatever the Hindu touches, disintegrates. They had India partitioned - the RSS and Hindu Mahasabha ensured that.

Now, they are working heatedly to make sure the Kashmiris also leave.

These BJP Hindus created trouble for Muslims in other parts of India, so Imam Bukhari says we shall have to ask for another partition.

Why are you so incompetent ? The Muslims built India, and the Hindus have steadily disintegrated it in just 60 years.

we saw how Hindu mobs, politicians, and poolice behaved in Gujarat. So no need to pretend you are civil.

Hindus like you are barbarians, you always were, always will be. Conversion is required to save you from the Devil.

The Jammu Hindus showed how nasty they are when they blockaded Kashmir. So they had it coming. Now the militants will go after them, and they will have to migrate. This is just the start.

Earlier, the Kashmiri Pandits played the same game, siding with the Hindu army and politicians, against the Muslims in Kashmir.

When Jagmohan was governor, he offered selective protection to the pandits. The pandits were told to come out of the valley, to special accomodation in Jammu. They were led to believe the Indian army would clear the valley of the militants in 6 months, and then the Pandits could return.

Well, the army could not end the rebellion, and the militants decided the pandits would not be allowed back into Kashmir, because they were betrayers of the Kashmiri people.

See where the Kashmiri Pandits are now ?

Wherever Brahmins are present, there is mischief. TN drove out the Brahmins like you, and the militants drove out the Brahmins from Kashmir.

Does the Pandit have the resolve to go and fight to get his home back ? No, he is too scared of dying.

He thinks the Indian army will get it back for him. If the Hindus in Jammu misbehave, they will also be targeted.

VISIT THE KASHMIRI HINDU REFUGEE COLONY AT JAMMU ALSO!!!!!

Dear Tariq Anwar, Why don't you visit the gloomy by-lanes of the Pandit refugee camps in Jammu. They are Indians who have been evicted from their land by Muslims for the only crime of being Hindus in a Muslims majority area- Kashmir. The were a minuscule minority of about 5% of the population of Kashmir. The majority Muslims who clamor for minority rights all over rest of India had no qualms about evicting the Hindus. At the Batla House, at best, there is a doubt about innocence of the Muslim Youth killed. But the Hindus in Kashmir are 100% innocent. Does any of the Kashmiri Muslim politician starting from Mehbooba[edited by TCN] Mufti to the Hurriet leaders have done nothing for the unfortunate Kasmiri Hindus who have become refugees in their own nation. The Kashmiris Muslims will do nothing because they have taken over the houses and orchards of the expelled Hindus and wouldn't want to give it back. So every time there is an effort to resettle the Kashmiri Hindus, there will be massacre of the Hindus. No security force can provide fool proof security to each and every Hindu who decides to return as it would require security force to be with each individual 24 hours a day like the VIP protection which is impractical. FRIEND, HAS THE BATLA HOUSE MUSLIMS BEEN THROWN OUT OF JAMIA? THE INVESTIGATION OF THE POLICE IS CLEARLY PROVING INVOLVEMENT OF MORE AND MORE MUSLIM YOUTH INCLUDING HIGHLY PAID IT PROFESSIONAL IN TERRORIST ACTIVITIES. I SUGGEST THAT THE MUSLIM LEADERSHIP TELL THE MUSLIM YOUTH WHO FIND THE INDIAN ATMOSPHERE ASPHYXIATING TO GO AND SETTLE IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY OF THEIR CHOICE AND LEAVE THE PEACE LOVING MUSLIMS TO LEAVE IN HARMONY WITH REST OF INDIA.

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