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Kowtowing to the killers: Muslims for murderer Modi?
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By Omar Khalidi
The venue was Harvard University’s famed Center for International Affairs, CFIA, which some call made for CIA! The occasion was the 2002 annual meeting of an Islamic Finance Project at Harvard in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Numerous friends of India, Americans and South Asians alike, were outraged at the recent Gujarat pogrom, forgetting the agenda of the Islamic finance meeting. They admired the heroic role of women like Begum Zakia Jafari, the wife of shahid Ehsan Jafari, the murdered ex MP in standing up to murderer Modi. The names of women like Mallika Sarabhai, Shabana Azami, Teesta Setalvad, Shabnam Hashimi, and men like Harsh Mandir, R.B. Shreekumar, and countless others came up as profiles in courage against the pogrom.
Among the listeners to this conversation at Harvard was Zafar Sareshwala of Parsoli Corporation Ltd of Ahmadabad, a company run by a wealthy Sunni Bohra family. On 27 February 2002, when murderer Modi unleashed the pogrom in Gujarat, Parsoli Corporation, then a ten year old company listed on Mumbai and Ahmadabad stock exchanges received huge financial damages. Naturally, Sareshwala was furious. He met friends at Harvard symposium wanting to come to the rescue of the pogrom’s victims through lobbying US Congress and State Department. He wanted Modi to be sued; he wanted Gujarat government to be held accountable for the staggering losses Muslims of all kinds suffered. Barely a year later, he accompanied by his cronies, Sareshwala “warmly welcomed,” Modi in London, as reported by M. Ghazali Khan in The Milli Gazette, 23 Aug 2003, see
http://www.milligazette.com/dailyupdate/2003/20030823.htm
Shortly after the pogrom ended in March 2002, Prime Minister A.B. Vajpayee arrived in Ahmadabad. During a meeting with community leaders in the circuit house in the company of Modi, Daudi Bohra leaders told Vajpayee with folded hands in the Hindu fashion, “Am to Miyan nathi,” we are not Miyans, the Daudi Bohras’ (and Sangh gang’s) slur for general Muslim population in Gujarati. “Am ne Modi sab upar pura bharosoch hai. Aa bahut saras kamgir karich hai, we have full trust in Modi. “He is doing a great job,” continued the Bohra leaders as they handed a check for 50 lakhs to the chief ministers’ relief fund. Despite the fact that all Muslims, including Bohras suffered loss of life and property the Bohra leaders chose to welcome and praise Modi during and after the pogrom. While the rest of world, disregarding political differences, party affiliations, religious loyalties, sought to bring Modi and his accomplices to justice in India and abroad, the pogrom-tainted chief minister received a pleasant surprise in Chennai on 18 September 2005, his birthday, when 30 Daudi Bohra leaders met to greet him with a check for Rs. One lakh. The picture showing the bearded, topied, Bohras smiling with the murderer Modi must have been enough for a jackal to puke, see
http://www.thehindu.com/2005/09/18/stories/2005091805421000.htm
Capping the Bohras’ unstinting praise for the murderer, Bohra chief, “Sayyidna,” our lord to his followers, Muhammad Burhanuddin met Modi in Ahmadabad in April 2008 as shown in Etemaad Daily of Hyderabad to shower his blessings! To anyone with any conscience, this act is an outrage. It is like a Jew complimenting Hitler, a Hyderabadi praising Sardar Patel, But then there is a long history of some victims kowtowing to the killers.
Public memory is too short; it may have forgotten that Muhammad Burhanuddin’s father, Tahir Sayfuddin (1915-65), was the first to congratulate Sardar Patel upon successful completion of Indian army’s Operation Polo in 1948, in which thousands of innocent, unarmed Muslims were killed. In other words, the actions of the Daudi Bohra chiefs are consistent through history: curry the favor of the rulers, even if killers, even if the killers are elected leaders of an avowedly secular state, subject to public and international accountability.
It would be wrong to blame only the Daudi Bohra chief and his chelas for kowtowing to the killers. They have plenty of company. Former Maharashtra minister Rafiq Zakaria, (1920-2005), sang paeans of praise on Patel, the man responsible for the pogrom of Delhi Muslims in September 1947 and Hyderabadis in September 1948, in a book he wrote, Sardar Patel and Indian Muslims. Recall that E. Ahmad, the current minister for state for external affairs, a Muslim League politician from Kerala stood with P.V. Narasimha Rao, (1921-2004) the prime minister (1991-96) responsible for the demolition of Babari mosque and subsequent all-India pogrom of Muslims in 1992.
The temptation to be close to the ruler of the day is such that, even the scholarly Mawlana Wahiduddin Khan could not resist. On the eve of India’s General Election of 2004, he headed a Vajpayee Himayat (support) Committee, a barely disguised outfit to elect the self-confessed RSS leader, and the Sangh gang’s prime minister during 1998-2004.
Kowtowing to the killers is not new; its practitioners include self-appointed, dynastic sectarian leaders like Muhammad Burhanuddin, ministers hankering after powers, businessmen seeking protection for their companies, scholars seeking filthy lucre and the like. So it is unsurprising that some Muslims are supporting a murderer like Modi. Barred from travel just about everywhere, the Daudi Bohras’ praises must be music to the murderer. I have been an admirer of Daudi Bohras’s economic self-reliance and their superb educational institutions. In fact, I advised fellow Muslims to emulate the Daudi Bohras as models of self-reliance. But that does not preclude my abhorrence at the appalling conduct of some Bohras in kowtowing to the killer. No one needs to question what the Daudi Bohra beliefs are, for it is their prerogative, but anyone believing in justice and accountability cannot but be outraged at Burhanuddin and his followers obsequious kowtowing to Modi.
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Omar Khalidi is the author of books like ‘Khaki and Ethnic Violence’ and ‘Muslims in Indian Economy’
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india a hindu nation
now first of all what muslims did to india was to loot it and live like pigs in dirt.india was and is great hindu nation since mauryan civilization.so the fact that muslims came and united it is bullshit.secondly dalits were forced to convert and caste system was never designed to opress anyone from lower caste.but its the pliticians who are misusing it and they should be shot.buy the way we have a sikh prime minister.now which muslim nation is living in peace.shia fighting sunnis and these guys are writing intellegent stuff here.whole world is kicking your ass in afghanistan,iraq,pakistan.citing you as uncivilised and trying to civilise you.none of your countries has democracy.look where india is after indipendence and where pakistan is.and if muslims dont like it in india they can go to pakistan.they have equal chance to education in india but they prefer to go to madarsas our drop out of school and become terrorists or culprits.in britain look what level hindus have reached becoming doctors,lawyers etc and look what muslims are.if you want to fight fight like men but remember what happened in indo pak wars.muslims dont even join indian army because they dont see india as their nation they are traitors and cowards as history shows,killing their own father,brother as aurenzeb did for power.buts thats their weakness as well we can see in mideast.let them fight amongst each other.love america and israel for that.now hindus know what to do with you if your population grows out of hand remember we have modi and we had sanjay gandhi.now to dalits,you are hindus have self respect fight for your rights.only cowars convert,and it wont help you anyway.its a shit deal.jai hind
India can only be ruled by consent of Muslims
Look A.K Singh, you need to come to terms with the following realities :
1) India cannot be a Hindu country with Hindu rule. Who is Hindu ? The Brahmin or the Dalit ? Whose Hinduism will rule India ?
2) India has 12-15% Muslims, and this will grow.
3) And Hindus will shrink as Dalits convert - RSS leader Sudarshan says as much.
4) India has to live with Muslim neighbours - so learn to accept this.
5) India can only be governed by the cooperation of the Muslims. If Hindus want to rule, they can learn from Emperor Akbar.
6) Finally, you will learn to rule when you overcome your inferiority complex and learn not to fight the battles of the past.
Till you master the above points, and you stop producing Advanis and Modis, we have to say Hindus are incompetent.
Hindus in Ahmedabad turns to Ganpati to fight terror-AK Singh
Look at the fun ! The Guju bhai Hindus run to Ganapati to save them.
Whether you believe SIMI did it, or Modi did it (Digvijay Singh), or even Congress did it (Sushma Swaraj) , it appears that the Ahmedabad blasts have shaken the Modi Hindus.
The most likely organizer of the Ahmedabad blasts was Modi.
You can deduce that from his track record. He hired Dalits as kar sevaks, sent them to Ayodhya on a train, and got them burnt. Then he organized riots and the Hindus voted for him. As a result of Modi, Muslims died, but so have Hindus. The Hindus were shot dead in Akshardharm, and they died in these blasts. And these won’t be the last in Gujurat, as long as Modi is in power. Either he will do it, or the terrorists will do it.
Ganapati cannot offer security to these Hindu jokers. They need to get rid of their false gods first. That means Ganapati and Modi. The Somnatha idol could not save himself or the Guju bhais from Mahmud, so what protection can an ugly, monstrous half-elephant confer ?
But the Hindus are like children - someone has to tell them what to do and what to think, they are incapable of independent thought. They cannot figure out the results of Modi's and their own actions, they think a stone, monster- elephant knows what is going on !
These Ganapati festivals have become a national nuisance. Large drunken mobs, carrying garish idols of this monster are paraded and then taken to the sea or nearest tank and dumped. It creates a major pollution problem. It poisons all the fish. After the festival, the surrounding areas are littered with the broken idols. The government brings bull- dozers to clear them.
The Hindus are a strange people. They still cry about Mahmud smashing some of their idols 1000 years ago, yet the Hindus themselves break their Ganapatis and bull-doze them away.
I would be embarrassed for India, to present such a monster as god, to the outside world, but these Hindus have no shame. They are resolute in their primitiveness.
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080064100
Hindus are the majority, they commit all manner of atrocities against minorities, and then say they live in terror ! Bah ! It is the worst community in India.
AK Singh magnitude of Brahmin atrocities is recounted in Manus
The magnitude of Brahmin atrocities is recounted in Manusmriti
After asking muslims whether Gujarat riots would have occurred without Godhra, you are running away from the subject you yourself raised.
You have your pants down, but you are bleating and hoping people don't see that I have stripped you.
So I take it you cannot contest my exposition of the Godhra train burning as an act of your Sangh agents. The train was not burnt from outside by a Muslim mob throwing petrol, but by fuel from inside. The coach was full of fanatic Hindus, not Muslims. The fact that most of the passengers with reservations survived suggests that precaution was taken to prevent high castes from getting burnt. I have quoted my sources : the AFL report and the Indian media. It is clear you cannot contest this. That is why you are creating diversions.
Muslims brought civilisation and culture to Kali worshipping thugs like you. People were liberated from the spell of the evil Brahmins. Before the Muslims came, northern India was a collection of warring Rajput states.
The integration of India with centralised rule was brought by the Muslims. Under Aurangazeb, Afghanistan was part of India. The great cities of India like Delhi, Ahmedabad and Hyderabad were built by the Muslims. Muslims built, you disintegrated and divided people.
The two greatest kings of India were Ashoka and Akbar - Buddhist and Muslim. The Hindu kings were minor. Sivaji was a bandit leader, and his sacking and looting of Surat are known. You have to fabricate history to seek respectability.
Now, what is the achievement of the Hindus ?
The Brahmins disintegrated India's social structure with the caste system. The Brahmins plundered the people and declared the wealth creators were untouchables. If it was left to you, you would be pouring molten lead into the ears of lower castes. Whereas under Muslims, a once untouchable called Malik Kafur rose to become Allaudin Khilji's general.
After independence, Brahmanic culture caused partition. Now, we have break away movements in J & K, Assam and other parts of India. We have terrorism and bomb culture - a product of Hindutva.
ISLAM IS A GREAT RELIGION- YAH PLEASE CONTINUE TO REMAIN SO>
Dear friend Anonymous, I am in total agreement to what you say. Isalam is a great religion which spread civilisation in India during time of Akbar. But why don't you let the people of the world who have refused to accept your Idea leave in peace since you claim that your (YOUR) religion is the most peaceful religion in the world. If the Brahmin's are exploiting the Hindus so be it. YOU NEED NOT AGREE WITH ME. BUT AT LEAST LET US AGREE TO DIS-AGREE.
Looks like you need a self-boost ! A.K Singh
A.K. Singh, you sound cowed these days. You need a self boost.
All Hindutva Hindus are louts, without exception -whether it is you, Advani, Uma Bharati, Thackeray, Modi, Togadia, Savarkar .....Such scum can only arise from the Hindus.
That is why I say Hindutva Hindus from the worst community in India.
I have supplied evidence that the Hindutva Hindus are the worst community in India. No one else is burning India - see what you did in Gujurat, J & K, Orissa.
Seeing you, I say conversion is the only way to save India.
Don't tell me I have freedom to have a view because of the munificence and charity of the upper Caste Hindus. That is typical Brahminspeak.
The Caste Hindu /Brahmin thinks he owns India, and others are allowed to live by his grace.
Hindus do not own India. In fact, you would not be able to say what is Hindu.
The Hindus are the left-overs, after you have counted the Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and Buddhists in India. That left-over is a collection of castes.
Is a tribal a Hindu ? Is a Dalit a Hindu ?
There is no real majority in India. An elite of Brahmins and upper castes control India, and they speak on behalf of others - Jains, Sikhs, Dalits etc. There is no real majority as the Indian parliament shows. It is a coalition of parties based on caste and region.
And who is responsible for the division of the left-overs into castes ? Why, the Brahmins !
The sudras tolerated it for 5000 years till the impact of Muslim and British rule liberated them. Many of them converted. That process is still going on in Orissa, Gujarat and other places.
I say to liberate India, Brahamnism has to be made a criminal offence, and conversion should be encouraged.
A.K Singh, it is good that you admit Brahmanism was abuse for 5000 years. Your only question is how the sudras tolerated it for 5000 years
The answer is obvious : they had no alternative till the Muslims and British came. Once the Muslims and British came, they started converting. The process goes on. Caste Hindus want to hold on to their privileged positions, so they create violence - as in Orissa.
The Muslims who stayed back love India more than you do. Hindus are constantly creating disturbances all over India - Gujarat, Orissa, J & K, Assam.
The solution is to eradicate Brahaminism by all peaceful means. If you like India, you have to agree.
Reply to Mr AK Singh (Chaddhiwala Hindu)
Mr Ak Singh, you are now reacting like Godse. You are using gutter language against Islam. I did not misrepresent you. Let me contrast you .
You are a Hindu communalist and castesist, and you endorse Hindu fascism and criminality because you support groups like BJP and RSS, which have a record of violence against minorities. Unlike Bajrang Dal monkeys, but like Vajpayee, you pose as a liberal. But I do not buy it.
I have explained why you are the Vajpayee-type of Hindu fascist. You are communal to the core, but you do not want to show it openly because you feel it is not respectable.
However, you react just like Vajpayee when someone presses you. Vajpayee will go on bus yatras and talk like a humanist, but when Musharraf makes a dig, he reacts just like Modi or Togadia.
Gujral or Manmohan Singh will not react that way, no matter what the provocation – these are people with education, convictions and breeding.
In this posting, you have used very crude language, unbecoming of an educated person. I can understand it from Hindutva Hindus – thier vocabulary is limited. From you, you have better language, but when pressed, your character comes out. I suggest that is your real character.
Good Hindus commands respect from other communities quite naturally. You don't because of the company you keep. You can learn from civilized - it cannot be the other way round. Nobody is stopping you from becoming civilised and respectable.
Instead, of posing as civilised and respectable, it would be better to have the real thing. Obvious, is it not ?
Can you explain the caste system, the unique form of apartheid and discrimination invented by Hindu civilization ?
Why are Hindus negationist when it comes to caste ?
Can you explain why no Muslim wants to go back to Hinduism ?
Did you discuss why Meenakhsipuram converted to Islam ? No genocide of Hindus by Muslims there !!
By the way, I asked you : who do you hold responsible for idolatry amongst the Hindus ? Muslims or British ?!!!! That will be the ultimate in negationism.
The biggest negation in India is by Hindutva forces about the damage Brahmanism has done to India. They do not want this discussed.
But I, have exposed this. That is why you are squealing.
If your complaint is Muslims are increasng in India, the most intriguing thing is why are the Hindus decreasing in India. Can your genius explain this ?
Does it not show that Hinduism is intrinsically destined to fizzle away ? Brahmanism, inequality and rank superstition cannot be the basis of a modern society.
I only wanted to know if Hindus are decreasing, increasing or keeping up with the Muslims. I assumed from the Hindutva Hindu's anxiety about Muslims that Hindus are decreasing.
What is the actual situation ?
Sudarshan says India will become a non-Hindu country by 2062. What do you plan to do ?
So I want to hear from a saffron Hindu like you what is the popluation position of Hindus in India.
You keep tellig me about Hindu population in Pakistan, but what about India ?
Why are you avoiding this ? Come out with straight answer - if you can !!
DID I RAKE UP ISLAM'S DARK SIDE?????
Dear friend Anonymous, Did I ask you why Indian Muslims are not allowed to own property in Saudhi Arabia, UAE and all your Muslim UMMAH Arabian states when they can own property in USA???? Did I ask you as why are Muslims who ruled India for 800 years, seeking reservation??? Rulers seeking reservation is a first time in the world. Even the Blacks in USA who were treated as domestic animals- sold and purchased like cattle- refuse to accept reservation claiming that they are in no way inferior to the Whites of USA.
HAVE YOU ACCEPTED THAT YOU ARE INFERIOR TO HINDUS TO SEEK RESERVATION????? Did I ask you as to why has the Muslims of Kerala accepted OBC (Other Backward Caste) status if there is no caste system in Islam??? Did I ask you why the grand sons of Mohammad, Hussain and Hassan and all their male relatives except one boy who was hidden amongst the women, were killed by Muslims themselves???? Did I ask you if the Shias, Sunnis, Sayyeds, Ahammadias, etc etc are not separate caste of Muslims then what are they??? So please do not abuse everyone else in the world. LET US AGREE TO DIS-AGREE AT LEAST. YOU TO YOUR VIEW AND MINE TO MY VIEW. PLEASE DO NOT FIGHT WITH ME TO MAKE ME AGREE WITH YOUR VIEW. YOU HAVE FULL FREEDOM TO BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU BELIEVE TILL YOU DO NOT INFRINGE ON MY RIGHT.
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Reply to Mr AK Singh (Advani Hindu)
Wherever Hindus are in sufficient numbers, there is trouble - India, Sri Lanka, Fiji, Africa
Hindus living in America support Hindu fanatics in India. Hindus in Tamil Nadu aid the Tamil separatists. This shows Hindus cannot be loyal to their mother country.
In India Hindus create national disunity by attacking Sikhs, Christans and Muslims. This shows wherever Hindus are in sufficient numbers, there is trouble - India, Sri Lanka, Fiji. It is just that there are not too many countries where you have sufficient numbers.
Where you are minority, you will be cowed. When you go and live in a Muslim and Christian countries, Hindus like you will be slimy, and collect money for VHP to fund attacks against Muslims and Christians.
If Muslims support Muslims in other countries, that shows the strength of their religion. In Hinduism, you declare members of your community are untouchable. That is why your religion is weak and you behave the way you do.
Muslims in India support Hindus who do not trouble them. However, we know how to deal with Hindus who harm us. You know what that is. Minorities of India attack RSS Hindus whenever they create problems. It works.
Muslims forged India over a period of 800 years. Before the Muslims came, the people were a collection of inexplicable castes. You did not even have a name to call yourself. Foreigners named you Hindu. Its meaning is derogatory. So what is the contribution of such people to India ?
Muslims provided a unified country, they laid the capital, built roads, gave the revenue system, provided contributions in arts, architecture, music, cuisine and national dress. You have no contributions to match.
In contrast, as soon as Hindus got power, the country had to be partitioned. The cause was just what you propose : Hindus of the RSS type threatened to make them second class citizens.
The conclusion is that Hindus are incompetent and are unfit to rule India. Kashmir wants to secede. Hindus are sowing the seeds of further disintegration with Ayodhya and Gujarat.
Foreigners gave you the label Hindu. So what roots do you have ?
What roots do you have Ak Singh ? Caste Hindu ? periyar said Brahmins were serpents.
Hindus are people who do not even have a name to call themselves. AK Singh, others had to label you Hindu. A Hindu has no clue what is Hinduism. So what roots do you have ?
That Muslims have support of other countries shows the strength of Islam.
In your case, who is going to have anything common with people who invented untouchablity and think the cow is the god ?
WOW .Finally You got 4
WOW .Finally You got 4 places to name.Except Srilanka you cannot mention any other place for Hindus creating trouble.
Similarly you cannot mention a place where Crescent is not creating trouble.
YOu said that you people have given roads,blah,blah...mention at what cost.
Imagine if Hindus conquer Arab world and do everything whatever muslims did to hindus in past and similarly provide better roads,administration..blah blah will it be acceptable for you.
Remember the word Kashmir is a Sanskrit word and you people have stamped your seal--the means adopted is better known to the world.You said Country had to be paritioned as soon as Hindus got power.What does Muslims got with pakisthan.they too got land and power to annihilate hindus and India got obligation to put up with the menace of remaining brothers.Even today We can live peacefully by peaceful exchange of minority population I guess.
In previous post I have noticed comments about the idol worships and our modernity.What is the problems you have if we are worshipping idols.you have got your share of pakisthan.remember the base for creating pakisthan was the religion.What is the itching for others if Hindus continue to worship idols accordance with their belief. If you still have hatred feeling and act according to that , what moral right do you have for that.
inferiority complex
Even many educated Hindus are jahils. The uneducated like you cannot be better. Many Hindus told us Brahmins follow 'thinking monkeys' instead of God. You will believe anything.
Modi is the kind of Hindu you deserve. He hires poor Hindus to be kar sevaks and sends them on trains and gets them burnt. Then he says Hindu pride is hurt, so he allows Hindus to kill and rape, with police support.
But Hindus worship him - although more Hindus get killed ! Hindus got shot in Akshardharm. More Hindus got killed in these blasts in Ahmedabad. Modi said SIMI did it. Many say Modi did it. Whoever did, it is the fate of the ignorant Hindu to get killed.
Modi cannot get a visa as a result to go to Europe or America. the Hindu cannot figure out why.
There is no trouble in India between Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists and Jews. That is a fact.
There is only constant trouble between Hindus and Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims and Hindus and Christians, and upper castes and Dalits. This is also a fact.
Therefore the Hindutva Hindus form the worst community in India.
Talk about votebank politics - it suits an uneducated people, with communal instincts, brought up on barbaric mythologies, who suffer from an inferiority complex.
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Weak argument : BJP’s fanaticism does not represent all Hindus
A.k Singh
"Islam is not religon of peace"
How did you work this out ? Explain !
My postings refer specifically to fascists like Vajpayee, Advani, Modi, Bharati and Swaraj. Hindutva is fascism and is recognised as such internationally, and even by many Hindus.
The fellow travellers of Hindutva fascism are drawn exclusively from the Hindu community, hence it is Hindu fascism.
Since Hindutva supporters claim they are spokesmen for all Hindus, and since they think that Hindu is India, it is natural to examine why Hinduism is producing so many Hindus who support Modi, Advani and Swaraj.
It cannot be dismissed by a feeble plea that there are bad eggs in every religion. It is the bad eggs amongst the Hindus who have dominated and done damage to India in the last few years.
If you feel the BJP’s fanaticism is not representative of Hindus, and you are also not in the same category, why are you taking umbrage at my criticism of the Hindutva ?
You should have written in support of me !
The way you have reacted indicates in fact that you are a fellow traveller of Hindutva fascism. Indeed, your explanation of why Hindus have become comfortable with fascism shows artful doublespeak.
I know Hindus intimately. There are many who are civilised and upright. Then there is the uncivilised sort like Modi, Bharati, Advani and Swaraj.
In between, there are the people like you who share the thought patterns of the Hindu fascists, but realise it is not respectable, and so try to have a foot in the liberal camp. This is the Vajpayee sort of Hindu.
You belong to this category – claiming that the BJP (Hindutva) does not represent all Hindus, but making out that criticism of the BJP amounts to being anti-Hindu. A weak argument !
Oh by the way, Modi also responds in the same to critics – according to him, nothing wrong happened in Gujarat, and it is anti-Hindu elements who are blackening the names of Hindus. He is in a denial mode. So are you !
PLEASE READ WHAT I HAE WRITTEN Mr ANONYMOUS
My friend Anonymous, Please read what I have written!!! I have not written about Hindus at all. I have just reminded the religion that has been "declared a religion of peace" by the RASOOL, to abide by what he has prescribed for you. IF ONE DOG BITES YOU WILL YOU GO AROUND STONING ALL THE DOGS IN YOUR LOCALITY ??? Aren't majority of Hindus whom you personally interact with reasonably good people??? Forget about few bad apples. Let us unite to spread the message of peace which your RASOOL has propounded. Let us together shame those who split people on religious lines. OR AT THE VERY LEAST REMAIN HAPPY, FOR HAPPINESS IS STATE OF YOUR MIND!!! LET NO ONE TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU. WHEN SOME BODY DOES SOMETHING BAD TO YOU THEY INTENT TO UPSET YOU -MAKE YOU UNHAPPY. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE HIM SUCCEED!!! INSIST ON REMAINING HAPPY IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THAT IDIOT TRIED TO DO TO YOU AND THIS WORLD WILL BE A HAPPIER PLACE TO LIVE IN FOR ALL OF US.
In a nation of 1 billion,can we only find rapists and murderers
In a nation of 1 billion, can we only find sponsors of rapists and murderers like Modi and Advani ?
A.K. Singh you are just a dishonest Hindu.
A more pertinent question is why a nation of 1 billion selects Modis and Advanis who have organised riots in which Indians have died, all for the sake of getting elected.
Since the people who selected such devils come from the 85% Hindus, this should be addressed to you.
The Hindus are 85%, yet they behave like a minority. They are riddled with an inferiority complex. Otherwise explain to me the meaning of Advani's slogan "garv say kaho kay hum Hindu hain". Evidently, the Hindus who responded to Advani were living in shame before !
Apart from inferiority, what drives Hindutva is insecurity. This comes from the fear of conversion to Christianity and Islam. This in turn comes from the Hindu caste system.
I don't know what Hindutva purpose was to mention the killing of Sikhs in different forums. Presumambly, you also wanted to say it was a Congress misdeed. Yes it was.
But there is another way to look at. The Sikhs, Muslims and Christians have been the victims of Hindu intolerance - whether Congress or BJP.
The only difference is that Hindu communalism is the BJP's ideology, so it is not curable. But it is not so with the Congress.
WHO EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT BJP OR MODI
Mr Anonymous, whoever spoke anything about Modi Or BJP being correct. All that has been stated is that if a religion claims to be the epitome of peace they must give up the revenge mentality. The followers of that religion, if they are true believers, and believe in what has been written in their scriptures must exhibit the qualities they claim that their religion propound. HAVE ANY MAN EVER BARKED BACK AT A DOG WHEN A DOG BARKS AT HIM. WHAT OTHERS DOES SHOWS THEIR CULTURE BUT WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS EXHIBIT THE EXEMPLARY CULTURE YOU HAVE IMBIBED. Two wrongs do not make a right. Can you justify Killing ordinary citizens for wrongs done by somebody else, especially when the people being killed are poor vegetable vendors and women in the market place? Hasn't Mohammad said in QUR'AN that non-combatants, women and children must not be killed even during WAR? Why don't the Muslims abide by what they have been directed to be done by their RASOOL? Any political party will pander to the population that vote for them. All parties- Congress, Communist, DMK, Janata Dal, RJD, Muslim League etc etc all do it. If BJP does not win any seat from Muslim areas and Muslim leaders openly call for defeating BJP evidently That party will have to pander to the whims of more and more fringe elements of Hindus who will vote for them . In the next election if BJP wins seats in areas which have substantial Muslim population the policy could YAH "COULD" change. and they may dump the fanatic Hindus.
Reply to Mr AK Singh (Modi Hindu)
Well, we have two followers of Sardar Patel. Advani and Modi say they are disciples of Sardar Patel. They are called the Bada and Chota Sardar respectively by their followers.
So what are you complaining about ?
See what a wonderful job they did for national integration.
Advani brought the culture of mobs, rath yatras, Babari masjid demolition, riots and bomb blasts.
Modi gave a wonderful display of India to the outdide world – shipping unruly kar sevaks, train fires, rioting, raping and temple shoot outs.
When the BJP was in power in Gujarat, they organised a communal riot, polarised society, and won the election in a background of violence, intimidation and fear. Minorities were shunted into camps and were unable to participate. The Gujarat election was a blot on India, and it was portrayed as such abroad.
So you want these neo-patelites like Modi and Advani to take over and bring Hindu rule in India ?
Unfortunately, for you, we have the resolute Laloo. He did not allow rath yatras or communal violence in Bihar. He said that if Togadia entered Bihar, he would hammer a steel nail in his heart. When Togadia landed in Patna by plane, he was not allowed to disembark, he was sent back.
I say Laloo is the real iron man and we need more leaders like him. If Patel was alive, and came to Bihar, Laloo would put a nail through is heart.
I shall check the forum on India being a failed state. If I see any nonsense there from you, I shall give you the customary treatment, till you cry about jihadis !
Modi is a Beast, let us pray for its conversion
Modi is a beast. But we would not kill him. Let us pray for his conversion to humanity.
Captain Johann says Christians also must face upto their....... I do not know the religion of Captain. Is Bajrang Dal kills the Killers of swami? Or the innocent Christians?
In Gujarath thousands of Indian Muslims killed by Modi and accompices. No one is a killer, but all are innocents. Their only crime was that they have Muslim names in secular India.
Modi should be arrested for genocide and court should judge the punishment. I wonder how a court can kill him thousands of time. So let him face the punishment of God.
ISN"T ISLAM A RELIGION OF PEACE!!!!!
All Muslims claim that Islam is the ultimate religion of peace. If Islam is indeed a religion of peace all it's followers, the Muslims,should show extreme affection and love for Mr Modi so that he feels ashamed of the Gujarat incident. Unfortunately Islam and the followers of Islam are not for peace. Why did the World Muslims not protest when Hindus were chased out of Kashmir, who were a minuscule minority of just 3-5% population of Kashmir. One side of every violent activity in the present day world is being fought by Muslims, starting from Palestine, Indonesia, Thailand, India, USA, UK, Spain etc etc and in even Philippines which is such a small country Hindus are ready to say "Allahu Akbar and also Muhammad rasool Allah" and even pray in a mosque unlike Christians and Jews who insist that their GOD is the only GOD and their path the only path to GOD. Hindus have only problem when Muslims insist that "Allah is the Only GOD". But the Muslims even do not spare the Hindus.But you can not blame the Muslims. They do not spare each other too. In Iraq more Muslims have been killed by Shias and Sunnis than US soldiers. Similar is the case in Afghanistan and Pakistan. SO IS ISLAM REALLY A RELIGION OF PEACE!!!!!!
Islam and Kashmir
Ak Singh's knowledge is fine,I would reply him in his own way-you have said Hindus are in minority in Kashmir-yes-lets accept the fact-they are and they are innocent-yes they are.But,dont you think Indian govt is wrong then, by ruling Kashmir and by not getting the mandate done according to the process of partition by Lord Mountbatten-Free them -they should not be apart of Indai because Muslims are majority.
Secondly, my friend Armed muslims are in very minority and the Majority is armed Hindu-Indian army deployed in the region by the govt of Indaia -and illegally ruling Kashmiris and yes majority and minority both are sufferring because of this govt decision.
Islam and Kashmir
Ak Singh's knowledge is fine,I would reply him in his own way-you have said Hindus are in minority in Kashmir-yes-lets accept the fact-they are and they are innocent-yes they are.But,dont you think Indian govt is wrong then, by ruling Kashmir and by not getting the mandate done according to the process of partition by Lord Mountbatten-Free them -they should not be apart of Indai because Muslims are majority.
Secondly, my friend Armed muslims are in very minority and the Majority is armed Hindu-Indian army deployed in the region by the govt of Indaia -and illegally ruling Kashmiris and yes majority and minority both are sufferring because of this govt decision.
LEARN HISTORY- SAAFUDDIN
Mr Saafuddin, The Bill of Partition was passed in British Parliament and not by Indians. The King of Kashmir acceded to India as per the above Bill. Choice was not given to the people of any Kingdom. Bad luck. The King of Hydrabad (Deccan ie not the Hydrabad of Sind), and Khan of Kalat in Baluchistan were amongst many kings who wanted to retain their independence. (Now why would any King want to surrender his Kingdom where he can rule as he please?). But all these Kingdom was amalgamated by India and Pakistan. The people of non of these Kingdoms were ever given a choice. It was India which went to UN when Paki tribals supported by Paki Army invaded Kashmir and agreed to hold a plebiscite once the Pakis fully withdrew from Kashmir. Not only Pakis never withdrew from POK, but ceded part of POK to China. Even if the Jehadis get the land back from China and get Pakis out of POK, a plebiscite now will not be possible as the demography of POK has been changed by Punjabi Muslims settling down in large numbers in POK in the absence of an Article 370 in POK while Hindus have been chased out of Indian Kashmir.
ISLAM
ISLAM IS RELIGION OF PEACE INDEED,FOR GOOD CITIZENS(MUSLIMS) OF THIS WORLD.MUSLIM MEANS ANYONE WHO SUBMITS HIS/HER WILL TO ALLAH.(GOD).ALL THOSE WHO ARE NOT GOOD CITIZENS OF THIS WORLD ARE REQUESTED TO BECOME ONE.OTHERWISE FACE THE CONSEQUENCES.
Big shame on AK Singh
Mr Ak Singh,>>
I truely admire your knowledge about this world.
You say that" <<
Do you know any of these conutries doesn't have an islamic rule.
You are stupid enough to say in Philippines hindus had to say the muslim slogans .
Do you know that pilippinas is not a muslim country . I do have my cousine who got married to a philippino who was a christian. So don't ever try to mislead people by posting your stupid thoughts . Why don't you concentrate on your believes rather than attacking the other community. idiot?
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH OR PLAIN STUPID- ANONYMOUS
Dear Anonymous, I am aware that Philippines have Christians and not Hindus. But I hope you are aware that there is a minority population of Muslims also in Philippines who are fighting with the rest of the population. All I said is that Muslims can not co-exist with any other religious group in the world and are fighting every other religion. In an Islamic country Muslims kill each other- In Pakistan and Iraq Sunnis ans Shias are killing each other. The followers of Islam which claim to be a religion of peace, are the most violent group in the present day world.So introspect the reasons for same if you please. OR else keep calling me stupid and idiot. I am not concerned if Muslims kill each other in other countries but killing ordinary citizens of India- both Hindu and Muslims because the bomb does not differentiate the people- by followers of a religion which calls it self the religion of peace gives cause for concern.
Modi and Patel
Sir,
I donot know whether Omar Khalidi is an Indianm but his equating the RAZAKKARS OF HYDERABAD as innocent Mulsims shows his utter lack of facing upto Truth or creating a Islamic caliphate of Saudi arabia with false propaganda.
Modi might have killed innocent Muslims by making use of the Godhra killing of Muslims.But Muslims must face upto their killing.
Christians also must face upto their killing of a 80 year old swami may be a fundemntalist in Orissa. They cannot blame bajrang dal making use of this killing and killing christians.
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